Was she confined to her chamber after that accident of the saucers?-She was confined to her chamber; my lord wanted her down to supper that night, and sent for her several times; and my mother went up for her, and she was too ill to come down. Mr. Recorder. What night?-The night of the day that the saucers were thrown. Serj. Marshall. You say, madam, that my Jady was confined, pray how long was she confined?-Whether it might be a fortnight or three weeks, I cannot positively say, but she was confined to her chamber. In what manner was she confined, in bed, or up, or how? She kept her bed for some time, and sat up in her chamber at other times. Did you give an account of this affair to any body whatsoever since the time this accident happened? I have spoke of it frequently, and my mother has spoke of it. To whom, madam, can you recollect?-Indeed, I believe there is Mr. Monck's family, that I believe may remember it perfectly well; there is in Gorey several that may remember it from my speaking of it before ever this affair happened. Where was Mrs. Heath during the time that lady Altham was confined in her chamber? Mr. Recorder. Oh! she said already, that she was about her. Pray, madam, did Mrs. Heath know any thing of that matter, or not?-She was in the house, she was immediately at her elbow, she was the person that came to my mother. Court. Did you go into my lady's room when she called your mother?-I did not, my Jord, I lay in my bed. Serj. Marshall. But she desired your mother to make haste, for that my lady was exceedingly ill?-She did, Sir. Jury. What time of the night was it that Mary Heath came to your apartment?-I really cannot recollect. When was it that you went into the closet, and saw this abortion you mention?-The next morning about nine or ten o'clock, I believe; to be certain I cannot. Do you take upon you to say, that at the time when your mother shewed you the abortion, that the traverser was in the closet?-I cannot say, she might or might not. Did Mrs. Heath constantly attend lady Altham?-She did constantly. Did you ever see her attend her?-I have seen her, and was often sent to call her. Serj. Marshall. When she called your mother up, did she express any and what apprehension concerning my lady's illness?-1 cannot say that she expressed any at all, only that she said, For God's sake, madaın, get up, my lady is exceedingly ill. Do you know how it was understood in that family, what the occasion of that sickness was? Court. Supposition or hearsay is nothing. Cross-examination. Mr. Recorder. Pray, madam, do you re member the time that my lady Altham came to Ireland, the month I mean?-Mrs. Cole. About October. Where did she lodge when she came to Dublin? Did not she come to your father's house?-She came to my father's house. How long did she continue in your father's house before lord Altham came? - Whether a month or six weeks in town, before he came to town, I cannot tell. Pray, madam, where was it that my lord and she first met? - At my father's house. Can you recollect the month that was in?I cannot be very certain; but I think that it must have been in November, the latter-end of November, or in the beginning of December, which I cannot tell. Do you fix it in November?-1 cannot fix it more than what I say. lady Altham lodge at your house till they went I ask you now, madam, did my lord and to Dunmaine?-I do not believe they did. I ask you, upon your oath, did they lodge in your father's house till they left town?-I think they did not. It is a material question, and you must answer it; I ask you, did they or did they not? for you that remember things so well, must know whether they did or no. Did not they lie there the night they were reconciled?They did, and some nights after. Did not they till they left town? No, Sir, I do not believe they did. Cannot you say whether they did or not?I cannot say positively. Can you say they did not lodge there while they staid in town? You that know they were reconciled by your father's means, cannot you recollect whether they left your father's house they staid there while they lived in town. before they left town?-I do not think that You do not think; but can you say whether they did or not?-1 tell you, Sir, my father was uneasy at their being in his house; my lord was a man that had a great many freaks, and my father prevailed on him to take lodgings. And did he take lodgings?-I think I may positive that they did not lodge at my father's say it, I am not certain; but I think I may be house till they went to the country. Well, then, madam, do you recollect their going away from town? Did the coach come to your father's house to carry them away?I do not remember. Were they at your father's house when they went away?-I do not believe they were. Did the coach come for them?-I remember remember any equipage. no coach coming for them. Indeed I do not you went to Dunmaine; what time was it that Now, Madam, you say that your mother and lord and lady Altham left this city ?-1 cannot ascertain the time of their going. You did not go with them?-I did not. I think you said your mother and you went to Dunmaine in February ?-1 believe it was. Pray, Madam, when my lady was at your house, did she hire any servants to go down with her?- I do not remember one. Do not you remember that she hired one Mrs. Setwright?-I remember Mrs. Setwright at Dunmaine, but do not remember my lady's hiring a servant in the house. Were you a gossip to Mrs. Setwright at Dunmaine?-I know she was brought to bed. Did you stand to the child?-Indeed I do not remember I did; if I did, it is more than I know, or can remember. Was your mother sick while you were at Dunmaine ?-Not to my knowledge. You do not remember that neither?-Indeed I do not. Was she so ill as to take vomits there?-1 do not remember any vomit she took, nor do 1 remember her to have taken two vomits in all her life. Did not you lie with your mother at Dunmaine?-Part of the time I was bed-fellow to Mrs. Heath, and part to my mother; for my father was there for a while, and as soon as he went, I lay with my mother. Pray, madam, did your father go with you there?-No, he did not. Was your father in the house when these saucers were thrown down? - He was not. Did that happen before or after he was there? It was after he was there. How long were you there before your father came?-I cannot tell. How long, a fortnight?-I believe we might; more or less, I cannot tell. Was it the beginning of February, or the latter-end that you went down?-1 believe towards the beginning; I cannot tell. I see you can tell nothing but one point. Was it the beginning, the middle, or the latterend of February that you went there?-I cannot say; but I believe it was in February. Well, but I ask you now, what time was it that this accident of the saucers happened? -I cannot tell whether in March or April. Which month was it? - If I could remember the day, the hour, or the minute I would tell you. How long was it before your father came?I think it was after. How long did he stay there?-He stayed but a very short time. Can you say how long he stayed?-Whether a week or ten days I cannot say. How long after he went away did it happen? -I cannot tell how long. Were not you examined in this cause once before; can you recollect what time you fixed then for your going to Dunmaine? - I cannot tell. Did not you say it was in March or April? -I do not know whether I did or not. Court. Did you say in February or March then, or when?-I cannot tell, my lord, whether I did or not. Mr. Recorder. When you were examined on the trial in the Exchequer, did you say, you | went in February, March or April?-I said that my lady miscarried in March or April. Did not you swear that it was in March or April that you went down?-Not to my knowledge. Why, had not you as good a knowledge then as now?-I might; if I said it I mistook. Pray, madanı, I ask you another question; you say, you mistook if you said so; upon your oath, how long after you went down was it that this accident happened?-It was some time after; it either was in March or April, but I believe rather it was in April. Court. You do remember you were examined in the Court of Exchequer; by virtue of your oath, did you swear then, it was in the beginning of spring that you went to Dunmaine? - I do say, that I believe I said that it was the spring. Do you call the month of February spring? -I might mistake in that. Mr. Mac Manus. My lord, I apprehend it is an improper question to ask a woman now, what she said another day; to examine her at this time to what she swore then. Court. I ask your pardon, Mr. Mac Manus, it is very proper. Mr. Recorder. Recollect the time; how soon after you got down did this accident happen, for it is a most remarkable one, in a fortnight, or three weeks, or a month, or how long?-It was more than a fortnight, three weeks, or a month; as I take it, it, it was about two months after we got down. Can you recollect the month? - It might be something more than two months, I cannot be positive. And might not it be something less?-No, I do not think it was. Can you recollect the company there at the time of this accident?-I have endeavoured my recollection as much as I could. There were four gentlemen at the table besides my lord, my lady, my mother and I; but to tell one of their names I cannot, and whether dead or alive, I do not know. Court. Was your father there?-No, he was not at the table. Mr. Recorder. Was there any quarrel between my lord and my lady at this time?There was none that I know of, for it was the saucers that occasioned the quarrel. at the table; How were the company placed at I suppose my lord sat at the lower end of the table? - My lady sat at the upper end, my mother sat by her, and I on the other side, and I do believe, as well as my recollection can serve, I believe my lord sat the very next person to me; I am not positive, but I think he did. Were these four gentlemen that were at dinner, people of any fashion?-I suppose some were, and some were not. Can you be positive whether my lord sat next you?-Upon recollection, I think he did sit next me. Court. Where did my lady sit? At the And did you sit on the right hand of my lady? -I can give you a very good reason for it. Tell it. It is that my mother had got some cold, and her eyes were weak, and she did not eare to face the light. What room was it you dined in? Describe Dunmaine.-I have not been at Dunmaine lately; but however, the room, as you come in at the street-door, was on the right hand; there was a bed in the other room opposite to it. What was the use of those saucers?There was something upon every one of them. How were they brought to the table? They were brought in on a dish, a desert, and those saucers were intermixed with other things. What had they upon them?-I believe there were sweat-meats upon them. Were you daubed with them when my lord threw them by you?-He took them in this manner, and emptied them all; and as he emptied them he threw them between my lady and me, he would empty a saucer and throw it, and so one after another till he had thrown them all. Where did he empty them into? dish that they were standing on. In the Did he know that my lady was with child? -I believe he did; and I am pretty sure he did. And yet he threw those saucers directly between you?--Sir, my lord was unaccountable in his temper. Court. Do you say that my lord knew my lady was with child?-I do believe he did know it. What is your reason for that belief? - I have no reason, only because of the abortion. But had you any reason to believe he knew it before that time?-I do say thus far, that the very first words that Mrs. Heath said to my mother Court. You are only to say what you know yourself. Mrs. Cole. I heard my lord say that my lady was with child before the accident. Mr. Recorder. Did you hear him say so?I did hear him say so. And yet he threw the saucers in this manner; how did he throw them?-My lady put her head one way, and I put my head the other, as they were throwing. Now, madam, you say you went into the closet the next morning, your mother carried you there? No, she did not. Who carried you there? I went of myself. Was your mother there?-She was in the closet. And your mother shewed you this abortion? -She did. Now, how old were you at that time?-I believe this will shew (holding a bit of paper in her hand); when I was here before I was quite uncertain as to my age. You then said you were 12 or 13?-There is a fault in that trial, for I was asked my age, and I could not be certain; I was asked why I could not, and I said I could not, because there was always What did you say your age was then? Did you say how old you were?-Forty-five or thereabouts. Did not you say you were then twelve years old?-I was led into it; I said I was, and could not tell how much more; I was asked how old then was I, 10, 12, 14, or 16; and said I might be 10, 12, 14, or 16, which I cannot determine. How old were you at the time of the trial; did you not say 45 or thereabouts? Here is my age (shewing the paper); I have now got it, and it is vastly more. When were you born?-I was born in the year 1691, but then I did not know. Court. What is your reason for saying you were born in the year 1691?-I got my age out of the registry. What registry?-Of St. Nicholas. What parish of St. Nicholas ?-St. Nicholas, Dublin. Which, there are two parishes called St. Nicholas? This St. Nicholas next us here. Whereabouts is the church, in what street? -St. Nicholas hereabouts, I do not remember the street. Court. That is St. Nicholas within. that time? Court. There is 10 years difference, and that is a great while to be mistaken in. Mrs. Cole. I tell you, that here was the thing just as I was asked; when they asked me my age, I said I cannot tell, take so many out of so many, and then you will know; there was some of the lawyers immediately talking, she's perjured, and that struck me to the heart, that I did not know what I said. Court. Were you asked that question but once on the trial, or twice, or thrice ?-I know I was asked it once, and when I was on the table the last time, that was the second time, I had then recollected myself. Mr. Recorder. Were not you asked how it came that your mother shewed you the abortion when so very young?-I do not know indeed. Do you remember when you came to the age of one-and-twenty? Did you never reckon your years?-I did not, and there was a constant dispute and debate what year I was born. Were you of age when you went to Dunmaine? To be sure I find by this registry I was. That is no evidence; were you one-andtwenty when you went to Dunmaine?-I was to be sure. You say it positive?-I do say it positive. How came you to mistake so prodigiously? -I do believe every one of you may remember | that your mother told you the abortion was that I said, take so many out of so many, and then you may know. Well, madam, when your mother shewed you this in the bason, had it any figure or shape?-It seemed to me to have it. What figure had it ?-It had head and limbs, Sir. Could you distinguish them plainly ?-It was but very little. Did you take and examine it? I do believe my mother shewed me the limbs, I did not take it to examine it; I looked at it as it lay there. Did your mother do any more than shew it to you as it lay?-I do not know but she might to shew the limbs. Did she take it in her hand? I do not remember that she did. Did she stir it in the bason?-She might stir it with a feather. Did she, or did she not?-I cannot say. Had she a feather in her hand?-1 cannot say that she had. Had it all its limbs?-I might see the limbs and the large eyes. What did you take it to be when you saw it first? My mother told me it was an abortion. That was in the closet?- In the closet. Is there a window in the closet? - There are three windows. Did your mother speak to you about it before you went into the closet?-Before I went into my lady's room my mother told me she had miscarried. Was that all she told you?-That is all, Sir. Did your mother or you go into the closet first? When I went into the closet my mother was there; we went into the room together, and I believe my mother went into the closet before I did. Did your mother speak before she went into the closet about the abortion?-I don't recollect; my mother told me my lady had mis carried. But did she tell you of the abortion before she went in; did she say that there was one in the closet? No, she did not. You are sure it was not before she went in ? -Indeed I really do not know, Sir, she told me there was one, but whether before or after I cannot be positive. Did you, when you were formerly examined, say it was before or after, or that you could not tell?-My confusion was so great, I did not know what 1 said. Did sbe, or did she not tell you before she went into the closet?-She told me my lady had miscarried before I went in, and when I went in I saw the abortion. What carried you into the closet if you did not know it was there?-My mother and 1 went in; my mother was there, and I might go to her; when she had made her compliments to my lady, she went in, and I followed her. When you were asked before how you came to go into the closet, did you not answer this, there, before you went in?-I believe I did say it, I might mistake in the term. Did you, or did you not say so?-I believe I did say it. I know my mother told me my lady had miscarried. Pray, madam, when did you leave Dunmaine? We left it, I believe, the latter end of May, or beginning of June, which I cannot tell, and went to Burton Hall. Did not you swear upon the former trial, that my lord sat at the lower end of the table, opposite to my lady, for now you place him next yourself? - I believe I did say it. But I say that I was in that confusion when I was here before, that I might; I might mistake in that, for not a mortal had spoke to me what I was to be examined about; but when I came on the table, I was in the greatest confusion that any body could possibly be. If I did say it, it was owing to downright confusion. Court. What time did you leave Dunmaine? -We left it the latter end of May, or beginning of June, I cannot be positive which. That was in the year 1714?-In 1714, my lord. Mr. Recorder. When did you come to town? -We did not come till the latter end of July, for we stayed at Burton Hall. How long did you stay there?-I cannot tell whether six weeks, or how long. Recollect as near as you can.-I believe till quite the latter end of July. And you came to town when?---The latter end of July, as near as I can recollect it. When did my lady come to town? Was she in town when you came?---I do not know whether she was or not. Did not my lady and you visit after?--When I came to town a sister of mine was in the small-pox, I never had it, and my mother sent me out of the house directly, which makes me as to any thing after that quite uncertain; and I was not at home after in my father's house till the year 1718, but with one relation or other. Pray, madam, when you came to town, was not the first news you had of the death of the queen?---I know I was not at my father's house at the death of the queen. Where were you then?---At Mr. Monck's in Dawson-street. Was not it soon after you came to town that you heard of the queen's death ?---It was soon after; I believe it was. How soon after was it that you heard that news?---Indeed I will not be certain, nor cannot. Was not it the first public news you heard? ---It might. Do you believe it was ?---I do believe it was. Did not you ascertain your time of coming to town by that?---I believe I did; I do not know whether I did or not, but I know by my sister's being in the small-pox. Was lady Altham in town then?---Indeed I cannot say whether she was or no, for I tell you I left the house; my lady might be in town and I not know it, for I left the house on my sister's being ill. Can you say whether she was in town when you heard of the queen's death ?---1 cannot tell; but I believe she was not in town. Pray, madam, when my lady came to town, where did she lodge the second time? Did she come soon after you?---I saw her in town to be sure, but what time of the year I cannot be certain; but I think, it was at Mrs. Vice's. Did you know Sarah Weedon there?-I knew nothing of Sarah Weedon at all. Did not you know John Weedon the coachman's wife?-I never knew that John Wecdon the coachiman was married until of late. Was John Weedon the coachman there at that time?-He was there. Who was house-maid there then?-I do not know. Do not you remember Nelly Thomas ?-No, I do not. Do you know Bourk the postillion?-I do Did not you swear upon the last trial that not know him. you were positive that my lady went to Vice's Did not you go abroad and stay a fortnight after the reconciliation ?---I do not know wheat Mr. Boyde's house, and Bourk carry you?ther it is positive or not, or whether I swore it I went abroad, but how long I stayed 1 can positive or not. Did not you swear it, that they went to Vice's before they went to Dunmaine?---1 believe I did. Can you now be positive?---I can so far, that they stayed but a few days at our house, and did not go from our house to Dunmaine. How many days did they stay in your house; was it three, or ten, or how many?I believe about four or five days after the reconciliation, indeed I cannot tell. But you are sure my lady went to Mrs. Vice's?-She went to my lord's lodgings, wherever that was. Did you visit there before she went out of town ? I did see my lady once. Was it before or after Christmas, that they went to the country?-1 believe it was before; I cannot tell. Court. Did you ever see my lord and lady at my lord's lodgings?-1 did, my lord. Did you go there ?-I went. Where was it they lodged ?-It was a house, as near as I can remember, next to the Slip at Temple Bar. When was it that you saw them there?-It was after the reconciliation before they went to the country. Did you visit them a second time?-I did. Was it at the same house?-To the best of my knowledge it was. Whose house was that?-They call it Vice's house, to the best of my knowledge. Mr. Recorder. Now, madam, what time of the year was it you saw them the second time at Vice's, in what month? Pray recollect, for it is very material.-Indeed I cannot tell. You came to town you say in July, and the first news you heard was the death of the queen; was it before or after that you saw her there? It was after that I saw her, How long after ? I cannot say. Was it that year?-I believe it was that year, but I cannot ascertain the month. Are you sure it was that year? See and recollect the month, if you can. It was that year, but I cannot ascertain what month. Was Mrs. Setwright at Dunmaine when you were there?-She was. What was she there?-She was housekeeper, not tell. Where did you go? - To Mr. Boyde's. And did not Bourk carry you there?-I do not know who carried me there. Was not it one of my lord's servants?-It was, but which I cannot tell. How soon after your being at Dunmaine was it, that you went to Mr. Boyde's house?-1 cannot tell; but it was while I was at Donmaine. How long did you stay at Mr. Boyde's?-I cannot tell that neither; but I believe a very short time. What Boyde was it? - Boyde of Roslar. Pray, madam, who was butler at Dunmaine when you were there?-Rolph. Did you know Anthony Dyer?-No, I did not. Who was my lord's gentleman ? Indeed I cannot tell. Had my lady a page?-Indeed I do not know that I ever saw any thing in the equipage that was a page. Had my lady a page or not?-She might have a page for aught I know, but I do not remember. Was this visit to Boyde's before or after you saw the abortion?-Indeed I cannot tell. Were you at Dunmaine in the month of April ?-I was there. On St. George's day ?-I cannot tell. Were there any races while you were there? ---There might be, but I cannot tell. Were you at any races with lady Altham ?Indeed I do not remember. Did any girls run for a smock there? Was there a smock-race?-To my knowledge, I never saw any such thing in the country. Do you know Mr. Mark Whyte? Yes, I have seen him. Had you any discourse with him at any time?-Yes, he was at Gorey, and we had some discourse, I cannot particularly tell what. Cannot you remember what you said to him? I told him some servants' names that were at Dunmaine; and he asked me if I remeinbered my lady to be ever with child; I told him I did, and that she miscarried; and his answer was, as to her miscarriage we do not go upon that, for we do not suppose my lady a barren woman. Was that all that passed between you?-Mr. |